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		<title>Comment on Evolution and ID: Some Categorical Confusions by triedNode</title>
		<link>http://ugaxtnstudy.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/evolution-and-id-some-categorical-confusions/#comment-40</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Campus Ministries at UGA by mbc7956</title>
		<link>http://ugaxtnstudy.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/campus-ministries-at-uga/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>mbc7956</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it really varies depending on the small group.  To be honest though, to get the most out of a small group you really have to go to most of the meetings.  Usually it&#039;s about 2 hours a week.  However, if you miss a lot of meetings you will certainly find yourself out of touch with everyone and behind on the discussion, which can detract from the learning.  I&#039;ve been in many small groups that are laid back with people missing meetings all the time, but I feel like it&#039;s been the other small groups where people always come that I&#039;ve really grown the most and learned the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it really varies depending on the small group.  To be honest though, to get the most out of a small group you really have to go to most of the meetings.  Usually it&#8217;s about 2 hours a week.  However, if you miss a lot of meetings you will certainly find yourself out of touch with everyone and behind on the discussion, which can detract from the learning.  I&#8217;ve been in many small groups that are laid back with people missing meetings all the time, but I feel like it&#8217;s been the other small groups where people always come that I&#8217;ve really grown the most and learned the most.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Campus Ministries at UGA by ngilmour</title>
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		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts, Michael.

What sort of time commitment could one expect from a campus ministry&#039;s small group?  I&#039;ll admit that, because I&#039;m an alum of a small Christian college, I&#039;ve got almost zero experience with campus ministries of various sorts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts, Michael.</p>
<p>What sort of time commitment could one expect from a campus ministry&#8217;s small group?  I&#8217;ll admit that, because I&#8217;m an alum of a small Christian college, I&#8217;ve got almost zero experience with campus ministries of various sorts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;C.S. Lewis: Science and Scientism&#8221; by ngilmour</title>
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		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, first, for being an incorrigible English teacher (but what else would I be?).  That out of the way, what precisely are the moral aspects of the cloning debate?  I can guess at what you might mean, but I&#039;d prefer to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, first, for being an incorrigible English teacher (but what else would I be?).  That out of the way, what precisely are the moral aspects of the cloning debate?  I can guess at what you might mean, but I&#8217;d prefer to read it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pauline Authorship: A Brief Survey by ngilmour</title>
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		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My textbook as a college freshman (and one that&#039;s still on my shelf as a ready reference) is Bruce Metzger&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://gil.uga.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=22&amp;ti=1,22&amp;Search_Arg=Metzger%2C%20Bruce&amp;SL=None&amp;Search_Code=NAME_&amp;CNT=25&amp;PID=ZV323Ll5fEUD7xYfv_HKAQYLr&amp;SEQ=20081010100936&amp;SID=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The New Testament: Its Background, Growth, and Content.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s more of a survey of academic New Testament studies, but for that very reason it&#039;s a good entry into these questions.  (And, as of 10:15 on the morning of October 10, it&#039;s on the shelf in the Main Library.)

Of course, a good study Bible is the best tool, and I&#039;d recommend equally the New Oxford Annotated (my trusty Bible when I minored in Bible as an undergrad) and the Harper Collins Study Bible (my seminary Bible and the one I assign to my freshmen when I teach Bible).  Both of those Bibles are study texts in the tradition of the 1611 KJV, and the scholars they assemble are top-notch.  Folks who think that most of the academic world is &quot;liberal&quot; call these Bibles &quot;liberal,&quot; but I tend to define that category more narrowly, so I&#039;d call them ecumenical the way that the KJV is ecumenical.

 I&#039;ve heard good things from conservative people about the ESV Study Bible, but since I have not looked at it myself, I won&#039;t at this moment vouch for it.  I&#039;m all for good conservative scholarship, but I do insist on good as well as conservative.

But back to books: on textual criticism in general, I have looked at Vincent Taylor&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://gil.uga.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&amp;ti=1,1&amp;Search_Arg=text%20of%20the%20new%20testament&amp;SL=None&amp;Search_Code=TALL&amp;CNT=25&amp;PID=ckhMckhcxrk0AO7TGBjQi-xUe&amp;SEQ=20081010101812&amp;SID=3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Text of the New Testament: A Short Introduction&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and it&#039;s a nice gateway with a chapter on the Mark 16 question.  With regards to Paul in particular your best bet would be some good scholarly commentaries on the disputed books themselves.  I&#039;ve not done as much with Paul as I have with the gospels and the Hebrew Bible, so a bit of browsing in the LCC range of BS 2700 and following is about the best I can recommend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My textbook as a college freshman (and one that&#8217;s still on my shelf as a ready reference) is Bruce Metzger&#8217;s <a href="https://gil.uga.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=22&amp;ti=1,22&amp;Search_Arg=Metzger%2C%20Bruce&amp;SL=None&amp;Search_Code=NAME_&amp;CNT=25&amp;PID=ZV323Ll5fEUD7xYfv_HKAQYLr&amp;SEQ=20081010100936&amp;SID=2" rel="nofollow"><i>The New Testament: Its Background, Growth, and Content.&#8221;</i></a>.  It&#8217;s more of a survey of academic New Testament studies, but for that very reason it&#8217;s a good entry into these questions.  (And, as of 10:15 on the morning of October 10, it&#8217;s on the shelf in the Main Library.)</p>
<p>Of course, a good study Bible is the best tool, and I&#8217;d recommend equally the New Oxford Annotated (my trusty Bible when I minored in Bible as an undergrad) and the Harper Collins Study Bible (my seminary Bible and the one I assign to my freshmen when I teach Bible).  Both of those Bibles are study texts in the tradition of the 1611 KJV, and the scholars they assemble are top-notch.  Folks who think that most of the academic world is &#8220;liberal&#8221; call these Bibles &#8220;liberal,&#8221; but I tend to define that category more narrowly, so I&#8217;d call them ecumenical the way that the KJV is ecumenical.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve heard good things from conservative people about the ESV Study Bible, but since I have not looked at it myself, I won&#8217;t at this moment vouch for it.  I&#8217;m all for good conservative scholarship, but I do insist on good as well as conservative.</p>
<p>But back to books: on textual criticism in general, I have looked at Vincent Taylor&#8217;s <a href="https://gil.uga.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&amp;ti=1,1&amp;Search_Arg=text%20of%20the%20new%20testament&amp;SL=None&amp;Search_Code=TALL&amp;CNT=25&amp;PID=ckhMckhcxrk0AO7TGBjQi-xUe&amp;SEQ=20081010101812&amp;SID=3" rel="nofollow"><i>The Text of the New Testament: A Short Introduction</i></a>, and it&#8217;s a nice gateway with a chapter on the Mark 16 question.  With regards to Paul in particular your best bet would be some good scholarly commentaries on the disputed books themselves.  I&#8217;ve not done as much with Paul as I have with the gospels and the Hebrew Bible, so a bit of browsing in the LCC range of BS 2700 and following is about the best I can recommend.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pauline Authorship: A Brief Survey by teaddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>teaddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, many thanks for the thoughts. Good to know specifics. What specific tomes on the sixth floor would you suggest? Or should I dangerously browse? I may never come out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, many thanks for the thoughts. Good to know specifics. What specific tomes on the sixth floor would you suggest? Or should I dangerously browse? I may never come out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Textual Criticism from Parchment and Pen by ngilmour</title>
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		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me reiterate that the aim of the post was simply to present the practice and its basic vocabulary.  Snapp&#039;s links, at least the ones that display properly in my browser, are themselves helpful for the same aims.  I did not intend to endorse any of the major players in the battle over the ending of Mark or any other text-critical dispute; I just thought that some awareness of the process of constructing/reconstructing critical texts of the Bible would be interesting for our group.  

I&#039;ll admit that my own familiarity with text criticism has grown rusty over the last six years, so I&#039;m not anywhere near qualified to weigh in on the Patton vs. Snapp vs. Vladimir debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me reiterate that the aim of the post was simply to present the practice and its basic vocabulary.  Snapp&#8217;s links, at least the ones that display properly in my browser, are themselves helpful for the same aims.  I did not intend to endorse any of the major players in the battle over the ending of Mark or any other text-critical dispute; I just thought that some awareness of the process of constructing/reconstructing critical texts of the Bible would be interesting for our group.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit that my own familiarity with text criticism has grown rusty over the last six years, so I&#8217;m not anywhere near qualified to weigh in on the Patton vs. Snapp vs. Vladimir debate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Textual Criticism from Parchment and Pen by Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Snapp&#039;s remarks sound erudite, the fact of the matter is these variants that he mentions are all rejected as spurious and curious based soundly upon historical and text-critical principles.  

The Greek NT text is more than 99% pure (restored to its original state as from the pen of the author).

Vladimir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Snapp&#8217;s remarks sound erudite, the fact of the matter is these variants that he mentions are all rejected as spurious and curious based soundly upon historical and text-critical principles.  </p>
<p>The Greek NT text is more than 99% pure (restored to its original state as from the pen of the author).</p>
<p>Vladimir</p>
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		<title>Comment on Textual Criticism from Parchment and Pen by James Snapp, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Snapp, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ngilmour,

NG:  &quot;The point of P&amp;P is to bring laypeople into those conversations, and I think this article does so nicely.&quot;

But along the way he misinforms those trusting laypeople.  His statements about Mark 16:9-20 are way off.  That&#039;s not so nice.

NG:  &quot;I welcome you to link to (or to write) another, brief introduction to the contours of textual criticism&quot;

Try the &quot;Development of the NT Text&quot; presentation which is
in the list of text-critical resources at
www.curtisvillechristian.org/BasicTC.html 
and &quot;NTTC:  Goals &amp; Guidelines&quot; at
www.curtisvillechristian.org/TCGoals.html .

There&#039;s also a link there to the online Encyclopedia of NTTC.

And at www.archive.org you can download lots of NTTC materials, including Philip Schaff&#039;s 1882 Introduction to the American Edition of Westcott &amp; Hort&#039;s Greek NT, and Eberhard Nestle&#039;s 1904 Intro to NTTC (in English).

K. C. Hanson also provides some nice resources, which can probably be tracked down via a Google search for &quot;K. C. Hanson Papyri Manuscripts.&quot;

Yours in Christ,

James Snapp, Jr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ngilmour,</p>
<p>NG:  &#8220;The point of P&amp;P is to bring laypeople into those conversations, and I think this article does so nicely.&#8221;</p>
<p>But along the way he misinforms those trusting laypeople.  His statements about Mark 16:9-20 are way off.  That&#8217;s not so nice.</p>
<p>NG:  &#8220;I welcome you to link to (or to write) another, brief introduction to the contours of textual criticism&#8221;</p>
<p>Try the &#8220;Development of the NT Text&#8221; presentation which is<br />
in the list of text-critical resources at<br />
<a href="http://www.curtisvillechristian.org/BasicTC.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.curtisvillechristian.org/BasicTC.html</a><br />
and &#8220;NTTC:  Goals &amp; Guidelines&#8221; at<br />
<a href="http://www.curtisvillechristian.org/TCGoals.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.curtisvillechristian.org/TCGoals.html</a> .</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a link there to the online Encyclopedia of NTTC.</p>
<p>And at <a href="http://www.archive.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org</a> you can download lots of NTTC materials, including Philip Schaff&#8217;s 1882 Introduction to the American Edition of Westcott &amp; Hort&#8217;s Greek NT, and Eberhard Nestle&#8217;s 1904 Intro to NTTC (in English).</p>
<p>K. C. Hanson also provides some nice resources, which can probably be tracked down via a Google search for &#8220;K. C. Hanson Papyri Manuscripts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yours in Christ,</p>
<p>James Snapp, Jr.</p>
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		<title>Comment on High School Youth Group? by ngilmour</title>
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		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julianna (I can&#039;t call you TA; that&#039;s my title!),

I do wonder if this sort of thing becomes more of a concern as one puts more distance between oneself and high school youth group.  After all, Sunday morning service where I attend (and where Michael has seen me preach) uses music from my own high school youth group days along with stuff that&#039;s more recent CCM vintage far more often than it does my own preference, the older hymns (as in from Luther&#039;s and Wesley&#039;s eras).  I might be overstating the case if in fact big people church is becoming more and more like youth group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julianna (I can&#8217;t call you TA; that&#8217;s my title!),</p>
<p>I do wonder if this sort of thing becomes more of a concern as one puts more distance between oneself and high school youth group.  After all, Sunday morning service where I attend (and where Michael has seen me preach) uses music from my own high school youth group days along with stuff that&#8217;s more recent CCM vintage far more often than it does my own preference, the older hymns (as in from Luther&#8217;s and Wesley&#8217;s eras).  I might be overstating the case if in fact big people church is becoming more and more like youth group.</p>
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